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wckirby
Joined: 10 Dec 2005 Posts: 355 Location: New Orleans
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Posted: Sun Mar 19, 2006 5:34 pm Post subject: New AAUP Letter |
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http://savetulaneengineering.org/files/aauptotulane.pdf
There's just one part of the last letter I'd like to point out for special attention. The very last sentance:
"We shall doubtless be writing again as additional developments unfold."
This isn't going away anytime soon. _________________ Clay Kirby
11th generation New Orleanian
4th generation Tulanian
Mechanical Engineering Class of '06 |
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perturbed1
Joined: 12 Jan 2006 Posts: 87
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Posted: Sun Mar 19, 2006 9:32 pm Post subject: |
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And for anybody interested in the general topic of misspent endowment money and lawsuits:
http://www.post-gazette.com/pg/06038/651628.stm
So far the two sides in this one, Princeton University and the Robertson family have collectively spent $22 million. The dispute is over $30+ million 1961 endowment for the Woodrow Wilson School of Government that has now grown to $650 million and which the heirs claim has both been misspent and looted. In the process they have hire forensic accountants to pour ove tens of thousands of Princeton documents. Interestingly one of the things they discovered was that the university charged the endowment twice for buildings and equipment. First they charged them for building the buildings and then they charged them for depreciation. If I were a lawyer for the Newcomb women I would be taking a close look at that one. I suspect given the size of the original Newcomb donation (it was bigger than Paul's btw) that the Newcomb endowment ought to be worth more than $40 million today unless some creative accounting has been practiced along the way.
Anyway the article makes for interesting reading. It also indicates what is potentially at stake and why universities and other non-profits are very concerned about the outcome of the Robertson case. |
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wwalkeri
Joined: 12 Dec 2005 Posts: 136
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Posted: Sun Mar 19, 2006 10:21 pm Post subject: |
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Quote: | he [Cowen] said. In a way, the hurricane prompted the university to make decisions it
could not make before the storm hit. 'Under the current way universities operate, you can't make
these decisions under normal
circumstances,' he [Cowen] said. 'It takes an event like this.'" |
Wow so was it money, or did Mr Cowen use a tradgedy in so many people's lives to further a pre-existing agenda? |
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wwalkeri
Joined: 12 Dec 2005 Posts: 136
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Posted: Sun Mar 19, 2006 10:22 pm Post subject: |
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Perhaps this could be used to start lobbying faculty for a vote of no confidence. |
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perturbed1
Joined: 12 Jan 2006 Posts: 87
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Posted: Sun Mar 19, 2006 11:32 pm Post subject: |
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Quote: | If you never tell any lies you will never have anything you have to remember. |
Scott either needs to talk less or remember more. I am not sure though that Cowen woulf lose a faculty vote of confidence just yet. A lot of people still view him as a hero. I have been on his case since September and for most of that time I have felt pretty lonely and have been vigorously attacked by many if not most Tulanians. In fact I have been booted off www.collegeconfidential.com discussion board by a Tulane parent who is one of their moderators (the asshole who did it is a real putz too) so I know how firmly many support Cowen. It takes time to change minds but I do believe it is happening. The AAUP is going to slowly build a case by forcing Cowen to either lie or admit he took advantage of the situation in an impermissable way. Once he is backed into the admission or the lie then the moment will be right.
I don't think it will be far off. Faculty will be going through the appeals process, suits will be filed, there will be discovery, the Newcomb lawsuit may be permitted to continue and there will be a discovery process there and pretty soon the fat sleezebag's plans will come unravaled. |
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paleoboy
Joined: 06 Feb 2006 Posts: 21
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Posted: Mon Mar 20, 2006 12:20 am Post subject: |
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I spoke with a tenured Tulane College professor tonight, and he was not aware of the AAUP letters. He is seriously considering an exit from Tulane. He also stated that the AAUP doesn't have much in the way of teeth. |
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wwalkeri
Joined: 12 Dec 2005 Posts: 136
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Posted: Mon Mar 20, 2006 7:50 am Post subject: |
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No, but they could generate extremely bad publicity for Cowen and Tulane
Perhaps STE or one of us who has time could generate a faculty email list and send out the AAUP letters to all faculty. Once the faculty is aware we would be more likely to be heard. |
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perturbed1
Joined: 12 Jan 2006 Posts: 87
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Posted: Mon Mar 20, 2006 6:35 pm Post subject: |
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Yeah the AAUP is fairly toothless except the university voluntarily adopted the AAUP standards and wrote them into the employee handbook. The employee handbook is tantamount to a contract and since they are the AAUP's standards the AAUP is in effect the expert on what they mean. That matters if a professors has to sue and of course there is the bad publicity.
Universities can get junior faculty no matter how badly they treat them but getting the big guns is a different kettle of fish. You don't lure guys like Doug Brinkley from UNO to Tulane if there is no job security and tenure means nothing.
Frankly I expect a lot of faculty to jump ship voer the next two years and likely the most productive faculty at that. |
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Dr. Ash
Joined: 12 Dec 2005 Posts: 45 Location: New F'n Orleans
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Posted: Mon Mar 20, 2006 8:13 pm Post subject: |
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perturbed1 wrote: | Yeah the AAUP is fairly toothless except the university voluntarily adopted the AAUP standards and wrote them into the employee handbook. The employee handbook is tantamount to a contract and since they are the AAUP's standards the AAUP is in effect the expert on what they mean. That matters if a professors has to sue and of course there is the bad publicity.
Universities can get junior faculty no matter how badly they treat them but getting the big guns is a different kettle of fish. You don't lure guys like Doug Brinkley from UNO to Tulane if there is no job security and tenure means nothing.
Frankly I expect a lot of faculty to jump ship voer the next two years and likely the most productive faculty at that. |
The most lethal arrow in the AAUP quiver is censure. BFD. Schools like BYU have been under censure for about a decade, and it has had no evident effect.
The employee handbook, as mentioned in another post, is not a binding contract. To quote Peter Venkman: "It's more of a guideline than a rule".
And anyone at Tulane with "horizontal mobility" is polishing up the vita. No way any playas are coming to Tulane any time soon, if ever again. |
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